donald trump, mitt romney genuflected to that guy in the campaign. let the congressman talk. let j.c. talk. i don't know how you react to that. i want to know. >> chris, on the birther thing, i think that's a losing issue. >> why do the republicans push it? >> i can't speak for republicans. you don't hear me talking -- >> i think you want to chair the party. >> that's the reason -- >> you're going to have to speak for these clowns. >> for that reason. but, you know, you have to carry baggage of democrats that i have heard you over the years disagree with them. >> i have. >> i do think that there has to be a different tone -- >> do you agree these are dog whistles, these are signals to people we don't like black presidents, food stamps and -- >> the birther thing -- >> but the food stamps, the dependency message. >> i think it's unfair for john -- to paint with a broad brush and say that all republicans agree -- >> sununu was one of the number one surrogates they were putting out, and he was all over the place. >> but, chris, i was critical of the romney folks. they had no div